Hawaiian Gardens Casino Blackjack Rules

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The Gardens casino in Hawaiian Gardens began as a card club in a very small incorporated city in southern Los Angeles County, just a few miles due west of Knott's Berry Farm. Remodeling has been going on for a long time, and they recently closed the 'tents' they were operating in, and opened the new permanent interior, while some exterior work continues.
Before:
After:
The new interior is huge, and quite beautifully done. It has a contemporary large timber 'lodge' appearance, with very high ceilings, lots of ambient light, and brand new 50' monitors suspended from the ceiling all over the place. There must be at least 150 poker tables and what appears to be 100 other table games. Perhaps this number is unchanged from before, but because the room is so much bigger and nicer, it feels less crowded. A VIP high-limit area has a walled off area instead of just a partition, and among other amenities, has it's own cashier.

Here is the list of game offerings from their website:
Limit and No Limit Hold 'em
Blackjack
Pan 9
Seven Card Stud
Seven Card Stud Hi-Lo Split
3 Card Poker
EZ Baccarat
Pai Gow Tiles
Joker's Wild Pai Gow Poker
Texas Hold' em
Pai Gow Poker
Omaha Hi-Lo Split

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Omaha
Ultimate Texas Hold’em
The times I have been there, the staff was always friendly, and with a joint that big, wait times have typically been short, which I appreciate.
The only thing that hasn't changed is the patrons. The club is just off the freeway, and close to several cultural neighborhoods (e.g., 'Little Saigon', 'Little Manila'. 'Little Armenia', 'Thai Town') and actually located in an area heavily populated by large populations of Hispanic and ethnic Chinese. The mix makes playing poker quite interesting, as groups of regulars chatter away with their friends, and staff members in their native languages. For the most part, English is spoken during play, but I would caution any newcomers to be wary of team play.
With an NFL team coming to town, and the Super Bowl coming in 2021, other card clubs in the area have invested in their properties. The Bicycle Club up the freeway in Bell, and the largest poker room in the country in Commerce have remodeled and expanded, even adding hotel rooms. Hawaiian Gardens plans to open a hotel as well, so things are looking up for poker in Los Angeles.
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Wizard
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That is the closest casino to where I grew up in Seal Beach. I went to high school just next door to Hawaiian Gardens in Los Alamitos.
I still say anybody is a fool to pay a commission to gamble, unless you also invoke your option to bank as well. I've heard one of the LA casinos doesn't charge commission, which I've been meaning to verify and write about.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Ayecarumba

.. I've heard one of the LA casinos doesn't charge commission, which I've been meaning to verify and write about.


Yes, Crystal Casino (in Compton) advertises no commission (it is actually paid by the corporate banker). I advise caution. While it may not be 'Straight Outta Compton', you can see it from there. The place is very small, like 2 poker and 12 blackjack tables (they did have Free Bet last time I was there) but it is right next to the freeway. Unfortunately, the parking lot is pretty sketchy, so please plan on a daytime visit.
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Wizard
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Yes, Crystal Casino (in Compton) advertises no commission (it is actually paid by the corporate banker). I advise caution. While it may not be 'Straight Outta Compton', you can see it from there. The place is very small, like 2 poker and 12 blackjack tables (they did have Free Bet last time I was there) but it is right next to the freeway. Unfortunately, the parking lot is pretty sketchy, so please plan on a daytime visit.


Thanks! Do the women in the casino look like the ones on their web site?
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Ibeatyouraces

Thanks! Do the women in the casino look like the ones on their web site?


Somehow, I seriously doubt that picture was taken at a casino in Compton.Hawaiian Gardens Casino Blackjack Rules
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
RoyalBJ
Do they have regular mini-Baccarat, or just all proprietary EZ Baccarat?
Also, i bet that for uth, the blind bet psys flush 6 to 5, like in northern CA.
PokerGrinder

Yes, Crystal Casino (in Compton) advertises no commission (it is actually paid by the corporate banker). I advise caution. While it may not be 'Straight Outta Compton', you can see it from there. The place is very small, like 2 poker and 12 blackjack tables (they did have Free Bet last time I was there) but it is right next to the freeway. Unfortunately, the parking lot is pretty sketchy, so please plan on a daytime visit.


I went at night, bad idea! I was so sketched out walking to the casino from the parking lot. Terrible idea on my part but I was younger and stupider. Oh well I also went to a casino in East St Louis, IL in the middle of the night. Not sure which was a worse idea.
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Ibeatyouraces

Casino boat jacksonville fl new boat show. I went at night, bad idea! I was so sketched out walking to the casino from the parking lot. Terrible idea on my part but I was younger and stupider. Oh well I also went to a casino in East St Louis, IL in the middle of the night. Not sure which was a worse idea.


And people think walking between the Detroit casinos at night is bad.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Ayecarumba
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Yes, Crystal Casino (in Compton) advertises no commission (it is actually paid by the corporate banker). I advise caution. While it may not be 'Straight Outta Compton', you can see it from there. The place is very small, like 2 poker and 12 blackjack tables (they did have Free Bet last time I was there) but it is right next to the freeway. Unfortunately, the parking lot is pretty sketchy, so please plan on a daytime visit.


Thanks! Do the women in the casino look like the ones on their web site?
Hehe.. Depends on the number of C&C's you've put down..
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Ayecarumba

Do they have regular mini-Baccarat, or just all proprietary EZ Baccarat?
Also, i bet that for uth, the blind bet psys flush 6 to 5, like in northern CA.


I didn't cover the whole floor, but I only recall seeing EZ tables, and I didn't walk through the VIP room. Sorry, but I didn't get any pay tables, even for the BJ tables. I'll make a mental note to collect more details next time I stop by. If anyone else has details, please feel free to comment.
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weaselman
I have never heard about these before, so, please forgive my naivete.
I am going to visit San Jose on business for a couple of days, so, I was looking at the casinos in the area to kill an evening. And found this: 21st century blackjack.
I assume, this is a common thing in California (there was a title 'California games' on that site somewhere), so, perhaps, somebody, familiar with it can enlighten me?
I am assuming, the strategy is to to bet the minimum until you get to be the 'player-dealer', and then just hope for the best (and for the other players betting the max), right? Assuming not everyone bets the minimum when I am the dealer, I would have and edge of about 2.16% of the amount over the minimum with that strategy. Is this right, or am I missing something?
Does it happen often that players bet significantly more than the minimum in those games?
What is the usual ante (or whatever the proper term is for what you have to pay to the house for playing) amount?
And why in the world does it pay 6:5 for blackjack (and why H17, and no surrender)? I mean, as far as I understand, it does not make any difference to them whatsoever who wins, so why bastardize the game for no benefit?
'When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary'
Paradigm
I am not familiar with 21st Century BJ but, typically the player-dealer in these games is designated by the casino and you don't get to ever be the player-dealer.
I don't know all the details of the arrangement between the syndicates that typically 'bank' these games in California non-tribal properties (commercial card rooms), but I am sure there is a fee being paid to bank the games.
If you want to get away from this type of arrangement (and 6:5 BJ), you should go to a tribal casino. Other than being forbidden to use dice and wheels (whcih make 'California Card Craps' and California Card Roulette' quite amusing substitutes) you are able to play most card based games in a similar fashion to Vegas at the tribal properties in CA.
JB
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And why in the world does it pay 6:5 for blackjack


Because 3:2 is so 20th century.
DJTeddyBear

Because 3:2 is so 20th century.

Wow. Funniest thing I read all day!
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weaselman

I am not familiar with 21st Century BJ but, typically the player-dealer in these games is designated by the casino and you don't get to ever be the player-dealer.

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The website says that each player is offered to bank in turn.
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I don't know all the details of the arrangement between the syndicates that typically 'bank' these games in California non-tribal properties (commercial card rooms), but I am sure there is a fee being paid to bank the games.


I am sure, there is :) There is a fee to play too. That is one of my questions - how large is it?

If you want to get away from this type of arrangement (and 6:5 BJ), you should go to a tribal casino. Other than being forbidden to use dice and wheels (whcih make 'California Card Craps' and California Card Roulette' quite amusing substitutes) you are able to play most card based games in a similar fashion to Vegas at the tribal properties in CA.


I hear it is at least a few hours drive from San Jose though .. I am not sure I will have enough time (or energy) for the trip.
'When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary'

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paisiello
Thanks for this post from:
I'll have to correct you there. By California Law 'the player-dealer', or more accurately 'the banker', is required to be offered to everyone at the table. The offer cycles around until someone says yes and then they bank for two hands. It is then offered to the next seated person and goes around the table in sequence. In practice it is fairly uncommon for people to bank the table since it can be potentially be very expensive. Depending how much money is being wagered on the entire table the banker must pay a $2 to $3 fee to the house every hand. For this reason the casino has a 'Corporation' to act as a semi-permanent banker. The Corporation rents out first base from the casino at the table and also pays the $2 or $3 fee. The casino still has to offer all the other players a chance to be banker every two hands but as mentioned nobody usually takes it up.
If that isn't bizarre enough, if a player does elect to be the banker then they also have the option of forcing the 'Corporation' to bet any amount up to something like $600 for each empty seat at the table. I was at the Hawaiian Gardens on Monday and this guy comes in, Mr. Money Bags, with about twenty $100 chips. He lays it down on one empty spot and opts to be the banker for two hands. He then points to about three empty seats and says '$100, $200, $100..' and the Corporation duly places the called for number of chips to cover the bets. After collecting the fees from everyone, the dealer then proceeds to deal to everyone including the Corporation hands. The Corporation consults his little chart and calls out to hit, double, stand, etc. for each hand he has betting. For every hand that loses, the bet goes to whoever is the 'banker' of the moment, in this case Mr. Money Bags. For every hand that wins, the corresponding bet amount is removed from the 'bankers' bet amount. If for some reason Mr. Money Bags did not bet a large enough stack to cover all the winning table bets then the Corporation covers the difference.
Get all that?
Anyways, Paradigms advice is still sound: stick to the Indian Casinos.
weaselman

If for some reason Mr. Money Bags did not bet a large enough stack to cover all the winning table bets then the Corporation covers the difference.


That casino site I was reading from says that if the bank does not have enough money to cover all bets, then the remaining hands get no action (there is no mention of Corporation anywhere). That's interesting too .. if the hand gets no action, will the player get the fee he paid to play back as well?
'When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary'
paisiello
Yeah, I am not sure about that, I have seen it both ways so I am confused on that point. But given that players also like to bet the side bets which can have a large payout, it would be near impossible for average individuals to cover the total action at an average table.
You only pay the fee if you want the dealer to deal the cards. If there is no action then you can cancel the bet and get your fee back.
But, as the Wizard himself has stated, California rules are confusing and mysterious so who really knows what the hell is going on for sure.
WangSanJose
I got a opinion in here.
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/other-casinos/9685-opinion-on-california-bj-does-it-work/#post144170
I think it's only beatable when you find a bunch of noobs playing at the table. In this situation, it's a positive EV to play.
But it's not worth to spend time on playing this suck game. Avoid California 21th century blackjack, I hate it.
DJTeddyBear

. . .
Get all that?

Um..
Holy crap!

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Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁 Note that the same could be said for Religion. I.E. Religion is nothing more than organized superstition. 🤗